election's about, what this one's about, piers, we can't go on like this with unemployment this high and the government functionally bankrupt and chaos abroad. i think the debate's going to be about that. i think if they stay on the substance, i'm hopeful that governor romney should do very well, even if he fumbles a little bit because he hasn't been in this kind of a format before, because you know, i think the country knows we need change and i think if he stays on that message, he should do fine. >> are you setting the bar so low that we should now expect a fumble? >> no. he's a pretty good debater. i don't think he's going to fumble. i'm just saying that this debate's going to be about i believe the issues, which is where we are now and how we can fix it. and if it stays on that substance, i think that's what the voters will absorb rather than whether either one of them hems or haws a little bit. >> this is mitt romney joking about rob portman playing president obama in some of the rehearsals. >> do you know what he does on weekends? do you know what he does? he plays barack obama. can you believe